CES 2008: HD DVD Dead; Downloads Are Alive!
My first overall impression from CES: The clear death knell for HD-DVD.
The buzz at CES was all Blu-Ray. There was little traffic in the HD DVD booth when I was there and when I walked by. The Blu-Ray booth on the other hand was crowded. Furthermore, speaking to some insiders at the show, it is clear to me that Universal and Paramount will be pulling their support in the next 3 or 4 weeks. The format war is over.
While the war is over, I was disappointed with a few things that I noticed on the BD side. The first is that the BD studios clearly seem to think they can hold their current BD movie prices. If they really are serious about ramping up sales of software, they really should drop the prices. $30 to $40 titles just won’t cut it as mass market items, especially if there is a recession on the horizon. Drop the prices, boys.
I would also suggest that they drop the BS which was unbelievably high at the Blu-Ray press conference I attended Monday night. All BS and little if any news, almost as bad as a political press briefing. Almost. Warner Brother keep insisting that they went to BD because the consumer decided. No they didn’t, the studios did. Drop the pretense, please.
Finally, it is clear from the new BD players on display and even the dual players that the manufactures have dropped all support for multichannel analog outputs. If you want the advanced audio codecs, you will either have to purchase an older model or purchase a new receiver or processor with HDMI 1.3 support. Imagine, using a new technology to drive customers to purchase even more equipment they didn’t think they would need! Not exactly a novel concept.
2. The future is right at our doorstep. I was very impressed with (Comcast's) Brian Roberts' keynote address and in particular their rollout of DOCSIS 3.0 this year which will give cable consumers (not just Comcast’s BTW) access to what was described as wideband internet. Scheduled to be rolled out in the 3Q 2008, DOCSIS 3.0 as implemented by Comcast will provide internet speeds of 100 mbps. They have done this by “bonding” 4 analog channels together. As more analog channels are dropped, they can bond those together as well. Therefore speeds of up to 500 and 600 are expected within the next 3 or 4 years.
This is a major development in internet speed and will enable HD downloads that I have predicted to be the future (not optical media) to become mainstream sooner than expected. In fact, this system enabled a download of Batman Begins along with the trailer for The Dark Night in full HD and multichannel sound, to be downloaded in 4 minutes. ( I find it interesting that a WB title was used given their Blu-Ray announcement at the show) The picture and audio quality shown was every bit as good as HDM and was shown on a theater sized screen. With the anticipated rollout of even faster speeds, that download will be possible in under a minute in about 2 years.
I know there are many of you out there who don’t believe in the future of HD downloads. Those of you who feel that way have cited the length it takes for downloading HD. Well, that speed will be reduced from hours to 4 minutes this year. Considering the time it takes to go to the store to buy optical media and the time you have to wait to order from an on line store, 4 minutes or less shouldn’t be an impediment. The real impediment seems to me to be the cost of the wideband internet. Unfortunately, no estimates were given at the presentation as to the cost of this service. I am sure it will be steep at first, However, considering that it is being rolled out as part of cable’s efforts to blunt the growth of DBS, there should be an effort to keep the cost down. Only time will tell. At the least, this announcement will remove the technical barrier to HD downloads. With cheap storage available in the form of portable hard drives, storage of the downloads shouldn’t be a problem. I expect more hardware to be developed to facilitate your ability to connect your computer to your TV to fully enjoy your downloads. I would expect to see these very products at CES 2009. The future of video distribution is already here.
3. The Pioneer plasma presentation was very, very impressive. They displayed two prototypes of new technology under development, a 9 mm thick plasma screen as well as what they call an extreme black panel. The 9 mm panel has to been seen to be believed. Incredibly thin. It was displayed in a 50” screen size. The picture was very good although not up to the quality of the new Kuro panels. The extreme black panel, also in a 50” screen size was absolutely stunning. It displayed a pure black and generated the best looking picture I have even seen on a display device totally slaying the 50” Elite Kuro next to it. Both showed the same content in a totally darkened room. The blacks were so good on the prototype that it put out no light at all while on with no signal running into it. It looks the same on as it does off. In fact, you didn’t even see it in the room until the HD signal was inputted. The best news of all is that Pioneer intends to merge to two technologies and introduce an extreme black 9mm Kuro panel. No date was given however, nor any price points. I am sure that the panel will be very expensive as are the Elite Kuro panels, even more do. The extreme black panel was a beautiful sight to behold and has much better blacks that the current Elite models which are the best screens on the market. The future of plasma is bright indeed.
4. The biggest loser at CES was clearly Toshiba. As this has been covered extensively elsewhere, I would like to address another big loser at the show at that was Verizon’s FiOS which had no presence at all. The big news on the TV side was clearly Comcast and their HD offering, new portable DVR, new guide and web interaction and wideband. From Verizon, you heard nothing. You would not even had known that FiOS even existed if you attended this show. That was not a good business decision. Verizon should have been at CES, touting their new HD channels and plans to add more by the end of 2008. They could have countered Comcast’s announcement of their 1000+ HD “offerings” by noting that Verizon will be offering real HD channels not just HD VOD which most of Comcast’s HD offerings will be. They could have announced their plans for HD VOD in addition to 80 to 150 HD channels by the end of the year as well as increased internet speeds. Way to drop the ball, again, Verizon.
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The buzz at CES was all Blu-Ray. There was little traffic in the HD DVD booth when I was there and when I walked by. The Blu-Ray booth on the other hand was crowded. Furthermore, speaking to some insiders at the show, it is clear to me that Universal and Paramount will be pulling their support in the next 3 or 4 weeks. The format war is over.
While the war is over, I was disappointed with a few things that I noticed on the BD side. The first is that the BD studios clearly seem to think they can hold their current BD movie prices. If they really are serious about ramping up sales of software, they really should drop the prices. $30 to $40 titles just won’t cut it as mass market items, especially if there is a recession on the horizon. Drop the prices, boys.
I would also suggest that they drop the BS which was unbelievably high at the Blu-Ray press conference I attended Monday night. All BS and little if any news, almost as bad as a political press briefing. Almost. Warner Brother keep insisting that they went to BD because the consumer decided. No they didn’t, the studios did. Drop the pretense, please.
Finally, it is clear from the new BD players on display and even the dual players that the manufactures have dropped all support for multichannel analog outputs. If you want the advanced audio codecs, you will either have to purchase an older model or purchase a new receiver or processor with HDMI 1.3 support. Imagine, using a new technology to drive customers to purchase even more equipment they didn’t think they would need! Not exactly a novel concept.
2. The future is right at our doorstep. I was very impressed with (Comcast's) Brian Roberts' keynote address and in particular their rollout of DOCSIS 3.0 this year which will give cable consumers (not just Comcast’s BTW) access to what was described as wideband internet. Scheduled to be rolled out in the 3Q 2008, DOCSIS 3.0 as implemented by Comcast will provide internet speeds of 100 mbps. They have done this by “bonding” 4 analog channels together. As more analog channels are dropped, they can bond those together as well. Therefore speeds of up to 500 and 600 are expected within the next 3 or 4 years.
This is a major development in internet speed and will enable HD downloads that I have predicted to be the future (not optical media) to become mainstream sooner than expected. In fact, this system enabled a download of Batman Begins along with the trailer for The Dark Night in full HD and multichannel sound, to be downloaded in 4 minutes. ( I find it interesting that a WB title was used given their Blu-Ray announcement at the show) The picture and audio quality shown was every bit as good as HDM and was shown on a theater sized screen. With the anticipated rollout of even faster speeds, that download will be possible in under a minute in about 2 years.
I know there are many of you out there who don’t believe in the future of HD downloads. Those of you who feel that way have cited the length it takes for downloading HD. Well, that speed will be reduced from hours to 4 minutes this year. Considering the time it takes to go to the store to buy optical media and the time you have to wait to order from an on line store, 4 minutes or less shouldn’t be an impediment. The real impediment seems to me to be the cost of the wideband internet. Unfortunately, no estimates were given at the presentation as to the cost of this service. I am sure it will be steep at first, However, considering that it is being rolled out as part of cable’s efforts to blunt the growth of DBS, there should be an effort to keep the cost down. Only time will tell. At the least, this announcement will remove the technical barrier to HD downloads. With cheap storage available in the form of portable hard drives, storage of the downloads shouldn’t be a problem. I expect more hardware to be developed to facilitate your ability to connect your computer to your TV to fully enjoy your downloads. I would expect to see these very products at CES 2009. The future of video distribution is already here.
3. The Pioneer plasma presentation was very, very impressive. They displayed two prototypes of new technology under development, a 9 mm thick plasma screen as well as what they call an extreme black panel. The 9 mm panel has to been seen to be believed. Incredibly thin. It was displayed in a 50” screen size. The picture was very good although not up to the quality of the new Kuro panels. The extreme black panel, also in a 50” screen size was absolutely stunning. It displayed a pure black and generated the best looking picture I have even seen on a display device totally slaying the 50” Elite Kuro next to it. Both showed the same content in a totally darkened room. The blacks were so good on the prototype that it put out no light at all while on with no signal running into it. It looks the same on as it does off. In fact, you didn’t even see it in the room until the HD signal was inputted. The best news of all is that Pioneer intends to merge to two technologies and introduce an extreme black 9mm Kuro panel. No date was given however, nor any price points. I am sure that the panel will be very expensive as are the Elite Kuro panels, even more do. The extreme black panel was a beautiful sight to behold and has much better blacks that the current Elite models which are the best screens on the market. The future of plasma is bright indeed.
4. The biggest loser at CES was clearly Toshiba. As this has been covered extensively elsewhere, I would like to address another big loser at the show at that was Verizon’s FiOS which had no presence at all. The big news on the TV side was clearly Comcast and their HD offering, new portable DVR, new guide and web interaction and wideband. From Verizon, you heard nothing. You would not even had known that FiOS even existed if you attended this show. That was not a good business decision. Verizon should have been at CES, touting their new HD channels and plans to add more by the end of 2008. They could have countered Comcast’s announcement of their 1000+ HD “offerings” by noting that Verizon will be offering real HD channels not just HD VOD which most of Comcast’s HD offerings will be. They could have announced their plans for HD VOD in addition to 80 to 150 HD channels by the end of the year as well as increased internet speeds. Way to drop the ball, again, Verizon.
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Did anyone hear anything from Time Warner? Did they announce anything?
DivX HD movie & TV show downloads will be available for the PS3 very soon.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080108-sony-to-distribute-content-in-divx-format.html
Sony to distribute content in DivX format
Sony Pictures Television announced today that online retailers will soon be able to offer Sony content for download in DivX format. The news came as part of a partnership with DivX, Inc. that will also let those files be playable on DivX Certified devices. "We are dedicated to finding legitimate outlets for our content and to that end are excited to be working with DivX to provide retailers with an expanded ecosystem for the digital distribution and playback of our digital media," said Sony Pictures executive VP of Digital Distribution & Mobile Entertainment, Michael Arrieta.
A spokesperson for DivX, Kristina Weise, told Ars that this would offer consumers high-quality Hollywood content in DivX for the first time ever, and that the deal would cover "all titles in the Sony Pictures Television library." She also said that all titles would be download-to-own, but that there will be some type of unspecified DRM. Tracking down those DivX Sony movies might be a challenge, though. "We have no announcements with retailers at this time," she told us.
The news comes just a few weeks after Sony added official DivX support to its PlayStation 3, which had been announced in November. Microsoft beat Sony to the punch, however, with its fall update to the Xbox 360 that included support for DivX. At the very least, owners of next-gen consoles (save the Wii, of course) will be able to watch Sony's movies whenever they become available. When will that be? Wise said that the movies will be available in DivX format on the same day as the DVD release of each title. Assuming there will be retailers to sell it, that is.
The move is definitely good news for the DivX camp, which hails the deal as the first with a major content distributor. Fans of shows from Sony—which include such hits as Jeopardy!, Dawson's Creek, and Seinfeld—can rejoice, because they'll finally have a legal way to download their favorite shows.
Since my local cable monopoly is run by Cox, do I have to wait for Verizon to bring FIOS to my neighborhood, or do I have to move to an area where Comcast has the local cable monopoly?
DOCSIS 3.0 was developed by Cable Labs, a joint cable company program. IT will be offered to all the participating cable companies. Deployment will vary depending on the comapny and the bandwidth each has available. The key there will be each system's ability to drop analog channels.
you morons live in a cave. you know what mass adpotion means? most americans still use dial-up, or just very basic hi-speed.
yeah, they demonstrated downloading a movie in 4 minutes. that's it, they were the only ones using the service! can you imagine on a friday evening, when half of americans go online downloading? without HD downloading, Internet industry has already warned a collapse of traffic in a few years just because of common video downloading.
DirectTV wasn't there either touting their nearly 100 HD channels. So, it wasn't only Verizon that dropped the ball.
Comcast is wrong if they think that their customers want more HD VOD. We want more HD channels. Plus, Comcast has not said that these thousands of HD VOD movies will be free to their customers. I bet there will be a small percentage of the HD VOD that are free.
I would be more impressed if Comcast added all the prime time network shows to HD VOD where you can watch any major prime time show [for free of course] any time you want one day after the shows was aired.
It is interesting to note that HBO is pulling their HD VOD on Comcast. Mine are gone and so are many other Comcast customers throughout the USA who have recently lost all HD VOD for HBO.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=975220
As noted above, I hope Sony will have a better deal [more free HD movies] for their PS3 customers when we are able to download them in a few months.
Peopel used to say that broadband sppeds were no big deal wghen everyone was on and guess what, it works fine. With sppeds of 200+ I don't expect much of a bottle neck. Get ready, downloads are happenig. Buy discs if you want but they will not be the only distribution method for HD content and will not be the last one standing. That will be downloads. As to other HD channels by Comcast, that was not the point of my posting. I am very much on the record as complaining about Comcast's lack of HD channels and that they are going the wrong way on that issue. I also want more HD channels and hate seeing HD VOD being used as a coverup for the fact that the linear channels are not being offered. With the removal of the analog channels from the system, bandwidth upgrades and the use of switched digital video, there should be room for all the new HD channels and HD VOD. I would suggest that Comcast do just that.
Joe,
You are being WAY overly optomistic. There will CERTAINLY be a bottle neck as the amount of bandwidth required is ASTRONOMICAL to allow for 100MBPS [per user / customer] off the bat & 400 - 500 MBPS down the road. Comcast currently is NOWHERE near this in network capacity nor are any of the other cable ops or telcos...it just isn't there. During all of the telcom consolidation lots of POPS are being decomisioned so there is less access not more. Verizon FIOS is in mainly areas of new construction, Verizon is not replacing their existing analog / copper Legacy BellAtlantic or GTE network but they are running fiber in areas where facilities are exhausted or areas of new construction.
I think you are really of the opinion of anything but Blu-Ray and that's OK but to take the CEO of Comcast at face value is a risky proposition. For Comcast to offer this on a national level, throughout their entire footprint is just laughable. They are a utiliy & cannot justify the expense
All the Comcast CEO did was steal a little Blu-ray CES thunder....no one will remember what he said if it never comes to pass.
By telecom consolidation I mean:
AT&T + SBC + AmeriTech = AT&T
GTE + BellAtlantic + MCI + UUNet = Verizon [+ lots of smaller carriers, networks assimilated in the mix as well MFS, BFS, etc...]
On the Internet access side of consolidation:
Level3 + Broadwing + WilTel
If the telcos or the cable ops had the bandwidth they WHY haven't they added an equal number of HD stations as DirecTV?
Is it believe what we [cable ops & telcos] say or what you SEE?
I see DirecTV winning the HD war regarding cable ops, sat providers & telco TV etc....
I have to agree with thedaddy here.
Over the weeks Joe has shown a bias towards HD-DVD. Once it became pretty clear to him that that format wasn't going to last is when the screw physical media started. As if since he's preferred format can't win then neither should.
Some of the arguments Joe has said against Blu-Ray were no one will upgrade all their players just to watch it. Old people don't want to get new players just for kitchens etc...
Ironic that all the arguments against physical media also are against downloads. Except more people don't want to screw around with the DRM, buy a $20 download and only watch it on one computer. not to mention most older people would rather not buy anything online since they don't trust or understand it.
I only listen to music on my iPod however after dabbling with iTunes and Rhapsody for a bit I won't buy anything digitally, I would rather rip the disk myself. After Windows needing to be re-installed and having the stores not recognize my PC and not being able to play what I bought, I'm done with that.
Digital distribution will probably be the next big thing, but not for awhile. Even with Comcasts promise of 100mbs this year that doesn't solve the problems, and at this time it is only an empty promise.
Also, the bonding of analog channels into a PVC VBR will require MPLS making this EVEN more expensive but without MPLS you have no guarantee that the packets will reassemble the way they were taken apart...this isn't bit-torrent 50GB HD movie files....if other packets get mixed in your file is then corrupted & won't open or play. If a Comcast customer has internet access + cable TV + Digital Phone they run the risk of all kinds of packets getting mixed up. It requires hardware at both ends.
I download tons of music in the .wav format [uncompressed]..it takes like 15 minutes to download a 150 - 200 MEG file on BrightHouse Road Runner...I ping at 2250 - 2500 kbps all day....how long would it take to download a 50GB file?
Days.
I am not saying impossible to do what they say, I am saying WAY to expensive to EVER do on a large scale.
It can be done but at what cost?
How will shareholders react to such a build out?
They would need to add thousands of GIG-Es per market or thousands of OC-192s per metro market etc...if that much bandwidth is even available or they would need to create it which would be even more expesive then I have already described. This could never be available in a rural area as there is no build out & they are to far from the POP.
For Comcast to do this is would be in the billions of dollars to build out
HD DVD IS VERY SAD
Joe is on track, here's why.
How many of you play games from Valve steam?
Now, when you go to a friend's house, and you logon as yourself on steam, isn't the games you own, immediately available for you? That's because the games are stored on Valve's server, and made available if and when you need it.
Valve Steam is the tip of the iceberg and it revolutionized the way games USED to be bought and played.
All that is holding us back now is bandwidth, and you can bet the telcos and cable providers are working hard at this. If you ever went to someone's house and tried Comcast's free VOD (video on demand), I can tell you, it's a really cool and convenient feature to use.
HD media had a chance to get a foothold 18 months ago. But the format wars made sour grapes to early standalone HD owners (both BD and HD-DVD). You can bet they don't want to get burned again. How long is it going to take the studios to make available their titles on HD media? It took 10yrs for DVD to get to where it's at. Problem is, 5-10yrs from now, something else will come along better. (HVD or VOD).
Sony won the war, but by the time the BD players and movies get to mainstream prices, it may be too late.
Gee last time I checked, I have spend alot of money of HD DVD AND Blu-Ray players. Bias, hardly. I have been writing about the inevitablity of downloads as well as the eventualy IP delevery of all TV for over two years at variious sites. In fact, I touted downloads when HD DVD fist came out. It is not about bias at all. I enjoy my BD collection very much. It is about seeing into the future and trying to see what will happen. I am not wedded to optical discs. For me, I would love to clear off my shlef space and get rid of the discs and CD's that I own if the quality of what I repalce them with if as good or better that what we get from optical media. It seems to me that this will be the case. I see no reason to be stuck in the past just for ole times sake which is the case with optical media IMHO. I guess if I was alive at the turn of the 20th century, I would have been hot to repalce my horse and buggy with those new fangled automobiles. Just the weay I am.
Joe,
You missed my point.
Let say Comcast has 3 million customers in a specific market like NYC [for conversation purposes]
In this market they have 1% using this new VOD service.
Thats 30,000 customers X 100 MBPS if 1% of their customers try to use this at the same time. And remember, if it is the "next big thing" more than 1% will be using it but I will use this low number.
The REQUIRED bandwidth to accomodate the demand would be 30,000 x 100 MBPS = 3 million MBPS
That would be 3,000 GIG-E or 5,555 OC-12s.....
The capacity just doesn't exist and the build out would be to expensive for this on-demand type product.
And this would only be enough bandwidth to cover 1% of their customer base per every 3,000,000 customers
and I won't even touch the absurd claim of 400 - 500 mbps per download because it is simply laughable...every 2 homes = 1 GB of internet access???? do you understand how "fat" the pipes would need to be?
and they would have to replace the CPE [customer premesis equipment] at every customer home for speeds of 100MBPS & up as many are on 10 MBPS CPE meaning they cannot even download faster than 10 mbps using an existing Cable Modem / DSL modem etc...
so it is much more than just building out the network [to astronimical proportions throughout their entire national footprint] but it is also the delivary of new hardware to every customer as well....
I just don't see it based on economics not technology
Only tiem will tell thedaddy. Since I don't work for Comcast and am not privy to what they are doing in house on the technical side, I just report what they say. However, I would not dismiss their plans out of hand like you do. I can remember back in the early 90's when the Japanese said that digital televison was imposible for another 20 years. ONly 6 months later, two US companies showed the first digital TV. Unless you have some insude information that I don't, I wouldn't dismiss Comcast's ckaims out of hand. I do know from inside sources that they are working frantically to increase their bandwidth in their largest systems, Philadelphia included, to dramatically increase their bandwidth for this very purpose and to counter the threats posed to them by DBS and FiOS. They are out on my street almost evry day running new fiber and working on the headends. Only time will tell. I wouldn't want to sell any of these compaines short.
and Joe Weep, if you can live longer than 3 years, you will see Blu-ray become as popular as DVDs, and downloading will still be tricking. Joe, you will always weep. loser!
Joe,
These public companies / utilities do not have carte blanche to spend what ever when ever. To add say 100,000 GBs [100 TBs] of internet to Philly it will cost $3,400,000.00 [MONTHLY / fixed MRC] for the wholesale internet access regardless of if they buy it wholesale or create it themselves which would be more expensive then just buying from an aggregator. Now add the cost to deploy the fiber + the cost of the hardware at both ends + the additional NOC techs required to maintain this vastly larger [based on all the required additional hardware] Network Operation Center + the cost of the content to be resold & multiply by every market they operate on a national level. And again this is using a really low number because the bandwidth required for a market like Philly would be closer to 500,000 GBs [500 TBs] internet access bring the cost to $17,000,000.00 [monthly reoccuring charge] + the cost to deploy the fiber + the cost of the hardware at both ends + the cost of the content to be resold & multiply by every market they operate tha is the same size or larger than Philly
Now do you see what I am getting at?
There is actually no reason in the world to ever bring 100MBPS or higher into a residential customers home..it is such a total waste of bandwith. Most business internet customers pay on average $400 monthly for a full T1 of internet access [1.54 MBPS] now why would a residential customer need 64.9 times the bandwidth? How could this EVER be justified to stock holders?
At the next Comcast shareholders meeting are they going to be selling them on a Multi-Billion dollar national build out just to download movies?
It is laughable.
What is also laughable is how easy these companies get reporters to report the most ridiculous claims....the whole story is really not to be taken seriously.
My post about being bias was based on the article about Blu-Ray fanboys being sad. awhile back. And the BOGO sales on the Blu side are cheating to create sales.
Being that both sides have been immature to only see one side immature seem to indicate you don't have a problem with the other. Only way for that is to agree with it.
On top of that wasn't 4 months ago you had a post on how HD-VOD is only a smoke screen for real content. Now that HD-DVD seems to have died you are saying it's the next coming.
I've had Comcast for about 3 years now. And I doubt what they say will happen anytime soon. To me after not having HD channels added, still don't have ABC or CW on HD and the Tivo service I have little faith in what they say.
Sounds to me like they are trying to hold more customers off switching to DirectTV or Dish then actually improve their service.
Could be wrong about your bias, just it seems that way to me. If not them I'm sorry.
Not to mention Comcast was suppose to upgrade our internet speed to 10mbs a year ago and here I am at 8MB/S still.
So I have little faith in what they say.
Joe,
You are waiting for a flying car. Weren't we supposed to have those by now too?
We won't get a viable HD VOD for the same reason I can't go to my Chevy dealer and buy something to go cloud surfing with.
The premise sounds really awesome. I'd love to soar above the traffic, and drive/fly wherever I go.
But flying cars don't exist because of too many obstacles to overcome. Airspace rights, pilots licences, air traffic control, weight to thrust ratios, the list just goes on and on. It is not practical.
The same goes for HD VOD. Others here have expressed what must be overcome more eloquently than I, but I think you are getting the picture.
Anyone who can think rationally knows that a 50Gb download, or even a 10Gb download of an HD movie is not the same as a 5Mb song download.
The same as any rational person knows, WE ARE NEVER GETTING THE FLYING CAR!
Don't take me a face value. Do your own research. 10 minutes of a google search will tell you the same thing we're trying to.
The dream and the reality are simply not equal.
To further elaborate on my Comcast comment.
Fall of '06 Comcast was up for review at our local Board on their contract. At the time we had 4 MB/s speeds no locals in HD, had a few area not covered and since up here in Northern Cali we have so many tree Satellite isn't an option for some people, plus they were in a bidding war with Charter.
At the meeting they promised all Locals in HD better coverage and ramp up the net speeds to 16MB by fall '07. That was a staged promise. 8MB right away, 10 MB by spring and 16 by Fall '07
They've added NBC/CBS and Fox in HD but only Fox in 5.1 and ramped up the speeds to 8MB's. For a month we had 10 MB back in february but were bumped back to 8 saying they had stability problems. It's been over a year and we're still waiting.
This was at the local level. Most likely since they beat out Charter our area isn't that high up on the priority list now.
If they can't hold promises at the local areas how can the CEO possibly expect a nation wide ramp up. Not to mention now that the FCC might impose a 30% limit on national coverage it's going to be pretty damn hard to justify the costs of the upgrade.
That's why I take nearly everything they say with a truck load of salt.
As far as anonymous is concerned, you mistake bias again fansboys and irrational behavior with bias against a format. Mt prior post was clearly againt fanboys of all types which I hold in as high regard as I do fantasy football geeks. As to the reat, maybe you are right. Then again, it was supposed to be impossible to put a man on the moon in the 1960s and we did that. All it takes is money, committment and vision. We will see who is right soon enough won't we? I am a can do kind of guy and don't take no for an answer very well. Some of you, oh well. We will just have to wait and see.
To begin with it won't be downloads as such that lead the way this time around.
It'll be HD TV services using a nice DVR & a big HDD (where customers can choose from a selection of HD movies already saved to the HDD to view).
[b]HD on your HD TV all the time[/b] is something an expensive Blu-ray disc on an expensive Blu-ray player just cannot compete with.
HD DVD could have been the next DVD but Blu-ray cannot.
Blu-ray is too expensive and an incomplete spec
(God knows when a reasonably priced profile 2.0 standalone with a decent spec is going to show up).
Right now Blu-ray which offers nothing but problems for profile 1.0 & profile 1.1 owners.....and tough luck, according to the BDA you're on your own "you knew what you were getting into".
But now we know, Universal & Paramount are staying HD DVD.
HD DVD isn't going away anywhere and Hollywood remains deeply divided.
Maybe Warner will rethink when they see Blu-ray has failed to escape the game console niche by the end of 2008.
(I hear the board had decided to 'go HD DVD' but their new pro Blu-ray CEO and a couple of others on the WB board declared for Blu-ray presenting a fait accompli - with luck they'll be fired/moved on & the sane decision come back to later)
Well who didn't see this coming from JWhip?
JWhips beloved format (HD DVD) that he's been pushing since 2006 is roasted so he simply doesn't want you to side with the winner as he has such distane for blu-ray.
It is truly a shame as at one point I actually thought JW was objective and I also thought he was an actual home theater enthusiast and not a MS pundit (paid or not).
Oh well, at this point I'm glad to read his bitter postings for his format getting slaughtered at CES and by consumers. Please JWhip, right another blog about why you hate blu-ray fanoys so much, you do know that you are far outnumbered. Blu-ray is the consumers choice for HDM. You and your little close minded HD DVD fanatics are obsolete now and your numbers are shring :0
The recent HD-A3 sale for 139.00 are making HD-DVD competing again with standard upscalers and Oppo upscaler units. Looks like hd-dvd is on track to get to that $99.00 magic pricepoint again. :) At that pricepoint, it's a sweet deal on the Toshiba A3. No other standalone "at that $99-$139.00 pricepoint" can compete with it in terms of features. You essentially get a great sd upscaler with free hd-dvd playback. I'm certainly going to pick one up, now I can watch my existing hd-dvd library in my bedroom and watch old DVD's with quality that rivals the Oppo units.
What would happen if SD flash memory replaces old-school optical discs? The possibilities are indeed intriguing. Right now SD 8Gb is about 29bucks, maybe yrs from now 50gb is 5bucks.
Imagine movies on SD flash memory where no more "layer changes", no more scratching, lower bootup or loading times, super durability, super low power, extreme portability and functionality. And because it's flash, studios can set aside part of the SD memory for adding additional special features (when connected to internet), instant updating to always be "the latest version" of the movie, new movie trailers, ability to rearrange the movie into how you want it to play, ability to add or subtract audio or video codecs, new or updated subtitles, ability to add Easter eggs, constantly updated biographies, company or studio info, or web links(add commercials? ARGH! egads). This is the end of the format wars as long as it's SD or memory Stick, and we already have multi input slots standard.
Imagine being able to pop that same SD card into an ultra portable hybrid disc player (with built-in SD slot) along with OLED backlighting. You could play movies for HOURS on a plane because of the energy efficiency
Now take that same SD card, pop into any PMP, the built-in OS will auto switch to the best resolution the device can handle and simply "play". I call it "smart" 2 way communicating flash memory.
There will be a whole new wave of devices where they communicate directly with the SD flash card and the content it carries.
There would be no need for "special" or expensive optical assemblies, the playback devices can be made much simpler and for cheap.
TV's, appliances, monitors can easily have SD slots built in for cheap, making all devices capable of playback.
Imagine watching something on TV, a special icon pops up indicating that show or movie is available for instant download for x dollars.
press a button, BOOM, show downloads and you can play on any device. The movie packaging comes in the mail later on.
For the longest time, optical discs have ruled. But Flash memory could very well be the next new media of the future.
Flash is a perfect complement to upcoming VOD or download on demand.
WOW! (foaming at mouth)
For my last retort to anonymous, there will always be fanboys of anystrip but you are outnumbered by the masses who don't really give a damn about any format really abd just want to watch movies. They are quite happy with DVD. Also, last time I checked, I wat BD too and have well oveer a 100 of them, many of which I bought. Fanboys suck as yourselves just don't want to listen to the facts. Anyone with a different opinion that yours is in someome hip pocket, paid oss etc. I for one would love to have Bill Gates' money and would love for him to send some my way. BIll if you are reading this, I'll take a mill. It will make anonymous happy if you will!
Indeed "content and convenience" are radically changing the way we do things. We all have to be open minded and look for better and faster ways to enjoy our entertainment.
Youtube, MP3 and iTunes have paved the way behind, new technologies are just waiting ahead.
Here's a case in point: I played
a movie of "the ant bully" for my toddler son. He loves it! But now he wants to watch other "ant" type cartoons or entertainment. I have no other "ant type" movies in my current optical collection. So now I have to go out in the cold to the store. I get there, but there is a limited collection of movies, or a title I want, but a format I don't have. My choices are limited.
Now let's say there is a fictional store that combines itunes with youtube, we'll call it "youtubeHD".
Now I go to the site, type "ants", suddenly a TON of search results appear. Everything from documentaries, foreign ant titles, movies, to puppet plays about ants. Many results are not available anywhere on optical media. Now I see something I like, I press "download and buy" or "download and rent", now it's a file on my PC/media box. I can now take that file and burn unto optical media, copy to flash media, or stream. I pop the movie into the TV. Now my son can enjoy his new movie!
Now some would say, well what would happen if your hard drive crashes? Well, youtubeHD would have a record of my purchase, and I can login and re-download anytime. It's already been done on Valve steam. When you login to Valve, all the titles you "own" show up on your list, and you can re download anytime needed.
cheers!
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